Hole 17 at Grayhawk Golf Club (Raptor course)

Par 4 • 464 Yards • Scottsdale, Arizona

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The penultimate hole at Grayhawk's acclaimed Raptor course embodies Tom Fazio's philosophy of "come-and-get-it" design with deceptive challenges that demand respect. This strategic par-4 features a well-positioned fairway bunker that creates a classic risk-reward scenario, setting up a demanding approach to a crowned green guarded by deep bunkers.

Tees:

464y431y402y344y

Green:34y × 33y

Fairway @250y:41y wide

2 Bunkers dogleg

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Hole Stats

Par: 4
Yardage: 464 yds
Green: 5208 sq ft
Bunkers: 2
Course Slope: 145
Course Rating: 74.1

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This long par 4 demands distance off the tee — the right driver matters.

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Strategy Tips

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This 464-yard par 4 presents a unique challenge with no traditional fairway landing zones - the course data shows 0 yards of fairway width at both 200 and 250 yards, indicating a forced carry or strategic layout that demands precision off the tee.

tee shot

With bunkers positioned at 323.6 and 225.4 yards from the tee, the conservative play recommended by course management is a long iron or fairway wood to lay up short of the closer bunker at 225 yards, avoiding the difficult carry over the right bunker.

approach

After a conservative tee shot short of the 225-yard bunker, you'll face an approach of approximately 240+ yards to a compact green measuring just 5,208 square feet (34x33 yards) - requiring precise distance control and club selection.

green

The relatively small green dimensions of 34 by 33 yards demand accuracy on your approach shot, especially given Grayhawk's signature deep greenside bunkers that guard these crowned putting surfaces.

tee shot

Aggressive players attempting to carry the bunker at 323.6 yards will need a drive of 330+ yards to clear it safely, but the risk-reward calculation favors the conservative approach on this demanding opening hole where first-tee jitters are common.

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This 464-yard par 4 is ideal for working on your driver accuracy. Launch monitors from $600 let you practice this exact shot with real course data from home.

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Scoring Tip

Long par 4s are scoring holes only if you keep the ball in play off the tee. Accuracy over distance.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What's the best strategy off the tee?

For this 464-yard par 4, most players will hit driver to set up a comfortable approach.

How difficult is hole 17?

This hole is a moderate challenge for most golfers. Key challenges include: long par 4.

How big is the green on hole 17?

The green is medium-sized with moderate targets. Pay attention to pin placement when selecting your approach club.

What's a good score on hole 17?

This hole is one of the tougher holes where par feels like birdie. A challenging par 4. Accept that bogey happens and avoid big numbers.

Can I practice hole 17 on a golf simulator at home?

Yes — many modern launch monitors and simulators include real course data for Grayhawk Golf Club (Raptor course). You can play this exact 464-yard par 4 shot-by-shot at home. Entry-level options like the SkyTrak+ (around $2,500) and Garmin Approach R10 (around $600) support course play, while premium systems from Trackman and Foresight offer tour-level accuracy. Most systems pay for themselves in a season or two versus green fees and range balls. Shop home golf simulators →